Question. 5.5k. If for some reason the Emperor doesn't allow you to join the empire, you get CBs on all of the electors to vassalize or restore union over them. Lothair II died in 869, leading to a further carve-up between his powerful uncles to the east and west, and in 880 the treaty of Ribemont formalised the split, awarding the lion’s share of Lothair II’s former lands to East Francia, which later evolved into the Holy Roman Empire, while giving West Francia (the forerunner of modern-day France) some territory and enduring aspirations to much of the rest.

By making it pivotal to his trilogy and, in this book, by rescuing Lotharingia from historical oblivion, Winder looks afresh at the long arc of European history, with its perpetual interplay between defiant local units and grandiose attempts at unifying schemes. But his strength is that, ignoring what pusillanimous academics might think, he trusts himself to have a go at reframing European history. Lotharingia was a real place, but one that few will have heard of because it was little more than a vacuum, one that other powers – first the emerging state of France and the raggle-taggle Holy Roman Empire, but ultimately the modern war machines of France and Germany – sought to annex. 5.3k. If for some reason the Emperor doesn't allow you to join the empire, you get CBs on all of the electors to vassalize or restore union over them. He has managed it because, for all the self-mockery, he has a serious purpose. Watch this video on Burgundy and see what I mean, the guy talks about the historical context also for Lotharingia, Lotharingia owns Flanders in that picture, mate. Charles got the west, Louis the east and Lothair the bit in the middle, which at that point stretched all the way from the North Sea to the middle of Italy.

Honestly, the HRE often suffers with loosing western provinces to France, so anything that could stem that is a good idea. The titles of the books are cleverly chosen. Europe’s messy cockpit was born, with parts of Lotharingia managing to eke out an independent existence of sorts as the fortunes of East and West Francia fluctuated and the competition between them presented opportunities for the mosaic of proud towns and stroppy nobles caught in the middle to exercise what they saw as their rights. The realm rejoices as Paradox Interactive announces the launch of Crusader Kings III, the latest entry in the publisher’s grand strategy role-playing game franchise. In Germania, he explores the idea of German-ness that culminated in the deadly fantasies of the Nazis. Making Aachen the capital of the HRE again would certainly be a noble goal.

But all other cultures are accepted. To order a copy go to guardianbookshop.com. Humor. r/eu4: A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio.

Literally unplayable. Alright guys I DEMAND that ALL Formables besides GB, Spain, Prussia, Germany and the Commonwealth be removed as these are the only historical formations in this time frame, Making Aachen the capital of the HRE again. Strictly speaking, Germany is wasn't formed during the EUIV timeframe... You must log in or register to reply here. On the plus side, he is a jolly guide, playing the part of spirited history teacher for a set of recalcitrant GCSE students who are struggling to tell their Charles the Balds from Charles the Bolds, and offering shafts of illumination that make the distant, knotty past come alive.

Danubia examines how the dysfunctional Habsburg family could hold together a sprawling empire of competing national groupings for almost half a millennium. Winder resurrects Lotharingia and explains how the creation of this slice of dynastic nonsense by the Treaty of Verdun in 843 has determined so much of Europe’s history, right up to the creation of the EU, which can be seen as an attempt to recreate the Carolingian empire and nullify the nationalist antagonisms that led to the European wars of 1870 to 1945. share. Ever since Voltaire’s quip that the Holy Roman Empire “was neither holy, nor Roman nor an empire”, it has rarely been taken seriously, and it did collapse like a pack of cards in the face of Napoleon’s assault.